July 3, 2025

From BDCs to Bonds: Smart Investment Strategies for Risk, Return, and Retirement

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Financial planning isn’t one-size-fits-all—and this week’s discussion proves just how personalized smart investing really is. From high-yield BDCs to Roth conversion timelines and guaranteed annuities, Joe Anderson and Big Al covered a wide range of strategies that help people optimize their money at every stage of life.

1. The Risky Allure of BDCs

Edward from Illinois asked about Business Development Companies (BDCs), which pay out dividends close to 10% but show minimal net asset value growth. Joe and Big Al didn’t sugarcoat it—BDCs lend to businesses that can’t qualify for traditional financing. That means big yields come with big risk, especially if borrowers default in a downturn. Think of it like investing in subprime loans or private credit funds—high returns, high risk of losing your principal.

2. Roth Conversions and a $6.4 Million Portfolio

Pebbles and Bam Bam from Kentucky have a $6.4 million nest egg and a solid game plan: convert to Roth IRAs while staying in the 24% tax bracket. With $200,000 in annual expenses, they’re holding $650,000 in T-bills and keeping a 10-year cushion of liquidity. Joe and Big Al applauded the approach—gradual Roth conversions plus smart withdrawals from non-qualified accounts is a tax-efficient way to protect long-term wealth.

3. Traditional vs. Rollover IRAs Explained

Many investors get confused between traditional and rollover IRAs. Joe clarified it: rollovers are for moving money from workplace retirement plans like a 401(k), while traditional IRAs are typically funded by individual contributions. Both follow the same tax rules, and they can be merged depending on your needs.

4. A Growth-Oriented Plan for Keith, Age 34

Keith from Connecticut is a USPS worker with $150,000 in savings and a long-term goal to retire at 57. With most of his portfolio in growth funds like the S&P 500 and small-cap ETFs, Joe and Big Al said he’s on the right track. They advised him to maintain this strategy while young but reduce risk as he nears retirement—especially if he’s planning to buy a home.

5. Withdrawing From a MYGA Without Triggering Tax Landmines

Gus shared details about his 95-year-old father’s Multi-Year Guaranteed Annuity (MYGA), which ballooned to $192,000. With $19,000 withdrawals allowed annually penalty-free, Gus wants to shift the funds to a brokerage account. Joe and Big Al recommended maximizing withdrawals up to the 22% tax bracket and considering lump sum options to simplify future taxes, especially for beneficiaries.

6. The Case for Bonds—And a Caution on Costs

Ken built his $2 million portfolio on 5.5% bonds and is skeptical of financial advisors. While his bond-heavy strategy works now, Joe and Big Al reminded listeners that no investment is cost-free—there are spreads on CDs and annuities just like advisor fees. The key? Know what you’re paying and what value you’re getting in return.

7. Advice That Cuts Through the Noise

Whether you’re converting to a Roth, pulling from an annuity, or debating the worth of an advisor, the overarching advice was clear: balance risk, cost, and long-term goals. Financial advisors aren’t just there to manage returns—they help with tax planning, withdrawal strategies, and preventing costly mistakes that don’t show up in a portfolio’s balance sheet.

Intended for educational purposes only. Opinions expressed are not intended as investment advice or to predict future performance. Past performance does not guarantee future results. Neither the information presented, nor any opinion expressed constitutes a solicitation for the purchase or sale of any security. Consult your financial professional before making any investment decisions. Opinions expressed are subject to change without notice.

IMPORTANT DISCLOSURES:

• Investment Advisory and Financial Planning Services are offered through Pure Financial Advisors, LLC. A Registered Investment Advisor.

• Pure Financial Advisors, LLC. does not offer tax or legal advice. Consult with a tax advisor or attorney regarding specific situations.

• Opinions expressed are subject to change without notice and are not intended as investment advice or to predict future performance.

• Investing involves risk including the potential loss of principal. No investment strategy can guarantee a profit or protect against loss in periods of declining values.

• All information is believed to be from reliable sources; however, we make no representation as to its completeness or accuracy.

• Intended for educational purposes only and are not intended as individualized advice or a guarantee that you will achieve a desired result. Before implementing any strategies discussed you should consult your tax and financial advisors.

Author

  • Since 2008, Joe has co-hosted Your Money, Your Wealth®, a consistently top-rated weekend financial talk radio program in San Diego. Joe was ranked #7 out of 200 in AdvisorHub’s Advisors to Watch RIAs (2024) and named to the 2023 Forbes Best-In-State Wealth Advisors list, ranking #9 out of 117 advisors on the list for Southern California

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